Are you for stricter gun laws

[Teddy kgb]

Monkey......I help out Rito and his friends with sports gambling

 

Rito.....(said to monkey) you’re wrong about everything related to sports gambling

 

Hahahahaha.......wouldn’t be funny if it wasn’t really said...but it was

[MonkeyF0cker]

Oh, look.  Another half-witted bitch that got slapped around by me too many times.  Has nothing intelligent or relevant to the conversation to say as usual.

 

Yawn.

[Teddy kgb]

Monkey doesn’t get chicks......check

Doesn’t know shit about sports gambling...chk

Never has shot 1000 rounds.....check

Never was good at poker....check

Drives a KIA.....check

Only friend is his dog....check

 

Is a hero to LCD....check (double reverse check)

 

Who is this clown MF fooling? He’s a troll, no different then Andy and lawnmower

[KingRevolver]

Monkey doesn’t get chicks......check

Doesn’t know shit about sports gambling...chk

Never has shot 1000 rounds.....check

Never was good at poker....check

Drives a KIA.....check

Only friend is his dog....check

 

Is a hero to LCD....check (double reverse check)

 

Who is this clown MF fooling? He’s a troll, no different then Andy and lawnmower

 

Change the KIA to a Nissan... and it's me you're talking about 

[MonkeyF0cker]

Monkey doesn’t get chicks......check

Doesn’t know shit about sports gambling...chk

Never has shot 1000 rounds.....check

Never was good at poker....check

Drives a KIA.....check

Only friend is his dog....check

 

Is a hero to LCD....check (double reverse check)

 

Who is this clown MF fooling? He’s a troll, no different then Andy and lawnmower

 

LOL.  Says the guy who:

 

Has to pay for AIDS infested-anus from hookers to get laid.

Has lost more money sports betting than most people here combined.

Would shoot himself in the face if he ever tried to even hold a firearm.

Could never in a million years beat anyone here in poker.

Probably drives whatever his wife tells him to drive (likely a minivan).

Follows me around more than my dog does.

 

 

Go get your shinebox, bitch.

[LCD]

Int. Bathroom, Somewhere In The OC - Day

Two men shove a snake into a toilet.  The younger one, the Apprentice, not yet ravaged by age and despair smokes a cigarette and watches the older one, known not affectionately as The Tard, stop working and pull an illegal food truck breakfast burrito out of his jacket.  The Tard is built like a pregnant barrel with a mailbox for a head, girlie arms and dull eyes.

 

The Apprentice:  Shouldn't you maybe wash your hands.

 

The Tard:  Fuck that.  I get poop in my mouth all the time anyway.

 

The Apprentice:  I'm going to the movies tonight.  I'm going to see Get Out.

 

The Tard (grunting):  Dat da the African American picture.

 

The Apprentice:  What?  Uh what are you going to do.

 

The Tard:  I'm going to place some bets that will probably lose, make five trips to the liquor store, then go on this website where a whole bunch of degenerate gamblers shit down my throat for a couple of hours.  Like I said...

 

The Apprentice:  What?

 

The Tard:  If the night goes really well and all my bets lose and I'm hammered, I'll start posting some crazy stuff about lesbians and then start baiting people with incest stories and how San Francisco is really Detroit.

 

The Apprentice stops speaking.

 

The Tard (licking what is hopefully burrito juice off his fingers):  Then I'm going to make some inverted turkey legs and bake them for three hours at 500 degrees.  Drink some more and dream about Mexican shemales.  I've got life clocked.

 

The Apprentice:  Oh fuck.

[Heartman]

Sherman tank on Ebay

March 16, 2016 by tankandafvnews 3 Comments

For those with the desire to be the envy of all their tank loving friends, there is a M4A2E8 Sherman tank for sale on Ebay right now.  This vehicle is listed as “complete, running and driving.”  The tank is described as having every accessory it was issued with as well as a stack of manuals.  The vehicle is located in Texas.  Below are some photos, there is a larger photo gallery at the ebay listing for the tank.

Filed Under: Historical Vehicle News Tagged With: EBay, M4A2E3, Sherman tank for s

December 28, 2015 by tankandafvnews Leave a Comment

 

Just got this off ebay last week.

 

The next time my neighbor blocks my driveway I'm going to teach him a lesson.

 

Thank God for the 2nd amendment!!!

[WVU]

Hearlman, I don't see anything but toy tanks listed on ebay with your links.

[Heartman]

Hearlman, I don't see anything but toy tanks listed on ebay with your links.

 

It's a joke WVU but there are probably some here who think a citizen should have the right to own a fully armed tank.

[KingRevolver]

Yes, a tank! That's what I truly want... great idea.

 

I have the right to bear arms.

[Blue]

10 Nit Wits. Whatta shocker. 

[mikeman]

10 Nit Wits. Whatta shocker. 

It really bothers you when people have opinions different than you, how come? 

[Blue]

It really bothers you when people have opinions different than you, how come? 

 

Nah just breaking balls. 

[KingRevolver]

It really bothers you when people have opinions different than you, how come?

Guy tilts more than Trumptards.

[Blue]

K

[mikeman]

Nah just breaking balls. 

I know, but you could at least say something, anything, that makes a little sense. I understand it's no fun when people agree.

[MonkeyF0cker]

What I due find interesting is that quite often the choice of weapon is an assault style rifle. In most cases more carriage could be done with a simple shot gun loaded with XX buck. But IMO assault type rifles are used do to the video game age. Its what is used in the games, so its what killers use as well.

 

We'll just leave this here...

 

/thread

[WVU]

I see a definite correlation between violent video games and shooting violence, but most of you geeks will never admit it.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Of course, there is, WVU. Movies, TV, news, etc. also contribute to desensitizing violence. The Internet itself makes for a lack of empathy, compassion, and interpersonal communication skills. An economy and familial conditions where there are so many single parent homes where that parent (or both parents) need to work full time also contributes. The inability for parents to actually discipline their children is another factor.

 

There are a million different things going on here. To point to one thing and think removing it is going to solve anything is ignorant.

[WVU]

here is a doctor's view on the difference between handgun wounds and AR-15 wounds.  Long, but great piece here:

 

 

If you want to know why gun control in America needs to be reformed, read what Dr. Heather Sher, a radiologist in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, wrote about the wounds of the Parkland school shooting victims:

As I opened the CT scan last week to read the next case, I was baffled. The history simply read “gunshot wound.” I have been a radiologist in one of the busiest trauma centers in the nation for 13 years, and have diagnosed thousands of handgun injuries to the brain, lung, liver, spleen, bowel, and other vital organs. I thought that I knew all that I needed to know about gunshot wounds, but the specific pattern of injury on my computer screen was one that I had seen only once before.

In a typical handgun injury that I diagnose almost daily, a bullet leaves a laceration through an organ like the liver. To a radiologist, it appears as a linear, thin, grey bullet track through the organ. There may be bleeding and some bullet fragments.

I was looking at a CT scan of one of the victims of the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, who had been brought to the trauma center during my call shift. The organ looked like an overripe melon smashed by a sledgehammer, with extensive bleeding. How could a gunshot wound have caused this much damage?

The reaction in the emergency room was the same. One of the trauma surgeons opened a young victim in the operating room, and found only shreds of the organ that had been hit by a bullet from an AR-15, a semi-automatic rifle which delivers a devastatingly lethal, high-velocity bullet to the victim. There was nothing left to repair, and utterly, devastatingly, nothing that could be done to fix the problem. The injury was fatal.

A year ago, when a gunman opened fire at the Fort Lauderdale airport with a 9mm semiautomatic handgun, hitting 11 people in 90 seconds, I was also on call. It was not until I had diagnosed the third of the six victims who were transported to the trauma center that I realized something out-of-the-ordinary must have happened. The gunshot wounds were the same low velocity handgun injuries as those I diagnose every day; only their rapid succession set them apart. And all six of the victims who arrived at the hospital that day survived.

Routine handgun injuries leave entry and exit wounds and linear tracks through the victim's body that are roughly the size of the bullet. If the bullet does not directly hit something crucial like the heart or the aorta, and they do not bleed to death before being transported to our care at a trauma center, chances are, we can save the victim. The bullets fired by an AR-15 are different; they travel at higher velocity and are far more lethal. The damage they cause is a function of the energy they impart as they pass through the body. A typical AR-15 bullet leaves the barrel traveling almost three times faster than, and imparting more than three times the energy of, a typical 9mm bullet from a handgun. An AR-15 rifle outfitted with a magazine with 50 rounds allows many more lethal bullets to be delivered quickly without reloading.

I have seen a handful of AR-15 injuries in my career. I saw one from a man shot in the back by a SWAT team years ago. The injury along the path of the bullet from an AR-15 is vastly different from a low-velocity handgun injury. The bullet from an AR-15 passes through the body like a cigarette boat travelling at maximum speed through a tiny canal. The tissue next to the bullet is elastic—moving away from the bullet like waves of water displaced by the boat—and then returns and settles back. This process is called cavitation; it leaves the displaced tissue damaged or killed. The high-velocity bullet causes a swath of tissue damage that extends several inches from its path. It does not have to actually hit an artery to damage it and cause catastrophic bleeding. Exit wounds can be the size of an orange.

With an AR-15, the shooter does not have to be particularly accurate. The victim does not have to be unlucky. If a victim takes a direct hit to the liver from an AR-15, the damage is far graver than that of a simple handgun shot injury. Handgun injuries to the liver are generally survivable unless the bullet hits the main blood supply to the liver. An AR-15 bullet wound to the middle of the liver would cause so much bleeding that the patient would likely never make it to a trauma center to receive our care.

One of my ER colleagues was waiting nervously for his own children outside the school. While the shooting was still in progress, the first responders were gathering up victims whenever they could and carrying them outside the building. Even as a physician trained in trauma situations, though, there was nothing he could do at the scene to help to save the victims who had been shot with an AR-15. Most of them died on the spot, with no fighting chance at life.

As a doctor, I feel I have a duty to inform the public of what I have learned as I have observed these wounds and cared for these patients. It’s clear to me that AR-15 or other high-velocity weapons, especially when outfitted with a high-capacity magazine, have no place in a civilian’s gun cabinet. I have friends who own AR-15 rifles; they enjoy shooting them at target practice for sport, and fervently defend their right to own them. But I cannot accept that their right to enjoy their hobby supersedes my right to send my own children to school, to a movie theater, or to a concert and to know that they are safe. Can the answer really be to subject our school children to active shooter drills—to learn to hide under desks, turn off the lights, lock the door and be silent—instead of addressing the root cause of the problem and passing legislation to take AR-15-style weapons out of the hands of civilians?

But in the aftermath of this shooting, in the face of specific questioning, our government leaders did not want to discuss gun control even when asked directly about these issues. Florida Senator Marco Rubio warned not to “jump to conclusions that there’s some law we could have passed that could have prevented it.” A reporter asked House Speaker Paul Ryan about gun control, and he replied, “As you know, mental health is often a big problem underlying these tragedies.” And on Tuesday, Florida’s state legislature voted against considering a ban on AR-15-type rifles, 71 to 36.

If politicians want to back comprehensive mental-health reform, I am all for it. As a medical doctor, I’ve witnessed firsthand the toll that mental-health issues take on families and the individuals themselves who have no access to satisfactory long-term mental-health care. But the president and Congress should not use this issue as an excuse to deliberately overlook the fact that the use of AR-15 rifles is the common denominator in many mass shootings.

A medical professor taught me about the dangers of drawing incorrect conclusions from data with the example of gum chewing, smokers, and lung cancer. He said smokers may be more likely to chew gum to cover bad breath, but that one cannot look at the data and decide that gum chewing causes lung cancer. It is the same type of erroneous logic that focuses on mental health after mass shootings, when banning the sale of semi-automatic rifles would be a far more effective means of preventing them.

Banning the AR-15 should not be a partisan issue. While there may be no consensus on many questions of gun control, there seems to be broad support for removing high-velocity, lethal weaponry and high-capacity magazines from the market, which would drastically reduce the incidence of mass murders. Every constitutionally guaranteed right that we are blessed to enjoy comes with responsibilities. Even our right to free speech is not limitless. Second Amendment gun rights must respect the same boundaries.

The CDC is the appropriate agency to review the potential impact of banning AR-15 style rifles and high-capacity magazines on the incidence of mass shootings. The agency was effectively barred from studying gun violence as a public-health issue in 1996 by a statutory provision known as the Dickey amendment. This provision needs to be repealed so that the CDC can study this issue and make sensible gun-policy recommendations to Congress.

The Federal Assault Weapons Ban (AWB) of 1994 included language which prohibited semi-automatic rifles like the AR-15, and also large-capacity magazines with the ability to hold more than 10 rounds. The ban was allowed to expire after 10 years on September 13, 2004. The mass murders that followed the ban’s lapse make clear that it must be reinstated.

On Wednesday night, Rubio said at a town-hall event hosted by CNN that it is impossible to create effective gun regulations because there are too many “loopholes” and that a “plastic grip” can make the difference between a gun that is legal and illegal. But if we can see the different impacts of high- and low-velocity rounds clinically, then the government can also draw such distinctions.

As a radiologist, I have now seen high velocity AR-15 gunshot wounds firsthand, an experience that most radiologists in our country will never have. I pray that these are the last such wounds I have to see, and that AR-15-style weapons and high-capacity magazines are banned for use by civilians in the United States, once and for all.

[MonkeyF0cker]

here is a doctor's view on the difference between handgun wounds and AR-15 wounds. Long, but great piece here:

 

If you want to know why gun control in America needs to be reformed, read what Dr. Heather Sher, a radiologist in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, wrote about the wounds of the Parkland school shooting victims:

 

As I opened the CT scan last week to read the next case, I was baffled. The history simply read “gunshot wound.” I have been a radiologist in one of the busiest trauma centers in the nation for 13 years, and have diagnosed thousands of handgun injuries to the brain, lung, liver, spleen, bowel, and other vital organs. I thought that I knew all that I needed to know about gunshot wounds, but the specific pattern of injury on my computer screen was one that I had seen only once before.

In a typical handgun injury that I diagnose almost daily, a bullet leaves a laceration through an organ like the liver. To a radiologist, it appears as a linear, thin, grey bullet track through the organ. There may be bleeding and some bullet fragments.

I was looking at a CT scan of one of the victims of the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, who had been brought to the trauma center during my call shift. The organ looked like an overripe melon smashed by a sledgehammer, with extensive bleeding. How could a gunshot wound have caused this much damage?

The reaction in the emergency room was the same. One of the trauma surgeons opened a young victim in the operating room, and found only shreds of the organ that had been hit by a bullet from an AR-15, a semi-automatic rifle which delivers a devastatingly lethal, high-velocity bullet to the victim. There was nothing left to repair, and utterly, devastatingly, nothing that could be done to fix the problem. The injury was fatal.

A year ago, when a gunman opened fire at the Fort Lauderdale airport with a 9mm semiautomatic handgun, hitting 11 people in 90 seconds, I was also on call. It was not until I had diagnosed the third of the six victims who were transported to the trauma center that I realized something out-of-the-ordinary must have happened. The gunshot wounds were the same low velocity handgun injuries as those I diagnose every day; only their rapid succession set them apart. And all six of the victims who arrived at the hospital that day survived.

Routine handgun injuries leave entry and exit wounds and linear tracks through the victim's body that are roughly the size of the bullet. If the bullet does not directly hit something crucial like the heart or the aorta, and they do not bleed to death before being transported to our care at a trauma center, chances are, we can save the victim. The bullets fired by an AR-15 are different; they travel at higher velocity and are far more lethal. The damage they cause is a function of the energy they impart as they pass through the body. A typical AR-15 bullet leaves the barrel traveling almost three times faster than, and imparting more than three times the energy of, a typical 9mm bullet from a handgun. An AR-15 rifle outfitted with a magazine with 50 rounds allows many more lethal bullets to be delivered quickly without reloading.

I have seen a handful of AR-15 injuries in my career. I saw one from a man shot in the back by a SWAT team years ago. The injury along the path of the bullet from an AR-15 is vastly different from a low-velocity handgun injury. The bullet from an AR-15 passes through the body like a cigarette boat travelling at maximum speed through a tiny canal. The tissue next to the bullet is elastic—moving away from the bullet like waves of water displaced by the boat—and then returns and settles back. This process is called cavitation; it leaves the displaced tissue damaged or killed. The high-velocity bullet causes a swath of tissue damage that extends several inches from its path. It does not have to actually hit an artery to damage it and cause catastrophic bleeding. Exit wounds can be the size of an orange.

With an AR-15, the shooter does not have to be particularly accurate. The victim does not have to be unlucky. If a victim takes a direct hit to the liver from an AR-15, the damage is far graver than that of a simple handgun shot injury. Handgun injuries to the liver are generally survivable unless the bullet hits the main blood supply to the liver. An AR-15 bullet wound to the middle of the liver would cause so much bleeding that the patient would likely never make it to a trauma center to receive our care.

One of my ER colleagues was waiting nervously for his own children outside the school. While the shooting was still in progress, the first responders were gathering up victims whenever they could and carrying them outside the building. Even as a physician trained in trauma situations, though, there was nothing he could do at the scene to help to save the victims who had been shot with an AR-15. Most of them died on the spot, with no fighting chance at life.

As a doctor, I feel I have a duty to inform the public of what I have learned as I have observed these wounds and cared for these patients. It’s clear to me that AR-15 or other high-velocity weapons, especially when outfitted with a high-capacity magazine, have no place in a civilian’s gun cabinet. I have friends who own AR-15 rifles; they enjoy shooting them at target practice for sport, and fervently defend their right to own them. But I cannot accept that their right to enjoy their hobby supersedes my right to send my own children to school, to a movie theater, or to a concert and to know that they are safe. Can the answer really be to subject our school children to active shooter drills—to learn to hide under desks, turn off the lights, lock the door and be silent—instead of addressing the root cause of the problem and passing legislation to take AR-15-style weapons out of the hands of civilians?

But in the aftermath of this shooting, in the face of specific questioning, our government leaders did not want to discuss gun control even when asked directly about these issues. Florida Senator Marco Rubio warned not to “jump to conclusions that there’s some law we could have passed that could have prevented it.” A reporter asked House Speaker Paul Ryan about gun control, and he replied, “As you know, mental health is often a big problem underlying these tragedies.” And on Tuesday, Florida’s state legislature voted against considering a ban on AR-15-type rifles, 71 to 36.

If politicians want to back comprehensive mental-health reform, I am all for it. As a medical doctor, I’ve witnessed firsthand the toll that mental-health issues take on families and the individuals themselves who have no access to satisfactory long-term mental-health care. But the president and Congress should not use this issue as an excuse to deliberately overlook the fact that the use of AR-15 rifles is the common denominator in many mass shootings.

A medical professor taught me about the dangers of drawing incorrect conclusions from data with the example of gum chewing, smokers, and lung cancer. He said smokers may be more likely to chew gum to cover bad breath, but that one cannot look at the data and decide that gum chewing causes lung cancer. It is the same type of erroneous logic that focuses on mental health after mass shootings, when banning the sale of semi-automatic rifles would be a far more effective means of preventing them.

Banning the AR-15 should not be a partisan issue. While there may be no consensus on many questions of gun control, there seems to be broad support for removing high-velocity, lethal weaponry and high-capacity magazines from the market, which would drastically reduce the incidence of mass murders. Every constitutionally guaranteed right that we are blessed to enjoy comes with responsibilities. Even our right to free speech is not limitless. Second Amendment gun rights must respect the same boundaries.

The CDC is the appropriate agency to review the potential impact of banning AR-15 style rifles and high-capacity magazines on the incidence of mass shootings. The agency was effectively barred from studying gun violence as a public-health issue in 1996 by a statutory provision known as the Dickey amendment. This provision needs to be repealed so that the CDC can study this issue and make sensible gun-policy recommendations to Congress.

The Federal Assault Weapons Ban (AWB) of 1994 included language which prohibited semi-automatic rifles like the AR-15, and also large-capacity magazines with the ability to hold more than 10 rounds. The ban was allowed to expire after 10 years on September 13, 2004. The mass murders that followed the ban’s lapse make clear that it must be reinstated.

On Wednesday night, Rubio said at a town-hall event hosted by CNN that it is impossible to create effective gun regulations because there are too many “loopholes” and that a “plastic grip” can make the difference between a gun that is legal and illegal. But if we can see the different impacts of high- and low-velocity rounds clinically, then the government can also draw such distinctions.

As a radiologist, I have now seen high velocity AR-15 gunshot wounds firsthand, an experience that most radiologists in our country will never have. I pray that these are the last such wounds I have to see, and that AR-15-style weapons and high-capacity magazines are banned for use by civilians in the United States, once and for all.

LOL. This woman is no ballistics expert. Does she even know if the 9mm was hollow point or FMJ? Or what the .223 rounds were?

 

Propaganda. It's a funny thing.

[WVU]

only propaganda if it doesn't fit Monkey's narrative.  So all you got out of that piece is that the doctor is not a ballistics expert?  How many kids have you cut open to examine gunshot wounds?

[The X]

LOL. This woman is no ballistics expert. Does she even know if the 9mm was hollow point or FMJ? Or what the .223 rounds were?

Propaganda. It's a funny thing.

Don't need to be a ballistics expert when you see the damage first hand.

[ted sheckler]

Can someone explain what propaganda means?

[MonkeyF0cker]

only propaganda if it doesn't fit Monkey's narrative. So all you got out of that piece is that the doctor is not a ballistics expert? How many kids have you cut open to examine gunshot wounds?

If you think a radiologist cuts open people, you're a fucking retard.