Raise's Revelations.....The Best is Yet to Come....Nothing Can Stop What is Coming Legacy

[El Chapo2017]

 

[mikeman]

 

[mikeman]

 

[RaiseThese]

[MonkeyF0cker]

6 hours ago, mikeman said:

 

I knew that answer would be pure bullshit.

[RaiseThese]

7 hours ago, mikeman said:

 

Snowden an EASY no pardon.........that is the one Trump feels more strongly about...

Assange much more complicated....

[MonkeyF0cker]

1 hour ago, RaiseThese said:

Snowden an EASY no pardon.........that is the one Trump feels more strongly about...

Assange much more complicated....

Yeah.  Why should the American people know their government is spying on them?

And why would a President that had the government spying on him and creating fake charges want that spying exposed?  LOL.

Fuck Trump.

[mikeman]

1 hour ago, MonkeyF0cker said:

I knew that answer would be pure bullshit.

Yup - he babbled about letting the courts handle it, what courts? Snowden is in russia and assaunge was framed for a crime he didn't commit. Neither one is in the courts, certainly not our courts.

[Jimmy Hoffa]

Didn't Assaunge release and publish confidential US government documents? 

[RaiseThese]

1 minute ago, mikeman said:

Yup - he babbled about letting the courts handle it, what courts? Snowden is in russia and assaunge was framed for a crime he didn't commit. Neither one is in the courts, certainly not our courts.

That is why he said COURTS

[mikeman]

1 minute ago, Jimmy Hoffa said:

Didn't Assaunge release and publish confidential US government documents? 

Maybe, i dont know the details, but he was with wikileaks, they're whole purpose is to leak and expose corrupt govt programs and dirty deeds.

[Jimmy Hoffa]

2 minutes ago, mikeman said:

Maybe, i dont know the details, but he was with wikileaks, they're whole purpose is to leak and expose corrupt govt programs and dirty deeds.

Dirty deeds or not...

You can't release secret documents and not expect to be prosecuted, regardless of the content.

Remember that little bastard Daniel Elsberg?

[RaiseThese]

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Last week Hoffa was telling us Assange should get the death penalty

This week he doesnt even know what Assange did.....

 

How in the fuck could anyone get mad at this level of ignorance and stuipidity.....

 

[Jimmy Hoffa]

I get the characters in these scandals mixed up.

Sue me.

[MonkeyF0cker]

7 minutes ago, Jimmy Hoffa said:

Dirty deeds or not...

You can't release secret documents and not expect to be prosecuted, regardless of the content.

Remember that little bastard Daniel Elsberg?

Assange isn't the one that leaked them.  He had no access to the documents other than from someone else.

You think whistleblowing isn't a good thing?  Or that the government should be able to commit crimes under a shroud of secrecy and label all of their crimes "top secret"?

[MonkeyF0cker]

There's a big difference between giving up top secret information like wartime strategy or locations and exposing the government committing or covering up crimes.

[RaiseThese]

You all that conitnue to take Trump's words literally are missing out on a big part of this movie.

 

He is constantly dropping Comms in his written AND spoken words.....

[Jimmy Hoffa]

21 minutes ago, MonkeyF0cker said:

Assange isn't the one that leaked them.  He had no access to the documents other than from someone else.

You think whistleblowing isn't a good thing?  Or that the government should be able to commit crimes under a shroud of secrecy and label all of their crimes "top secret"?

I'm a believer in whistleblowing. 

There needs to be something in place however to keep information helpful to our adversaries from being disclosed  

Everything I touched at work was confidential to some degree. It was always front and center from on high that we release nor share anything. 

I saw two occasions where federal employees left work in handcuffs. 

[MonkeyF0cker]

2 minutes ago, RaiseThese said:

You all that conitnue to take Trump's words literally are missing out on a big part of this movie.

 

He is constantly dropping Comms in his written AND spoken words.....

Is that how Snowden gets pardoned?

You're a fucking retard.

[MonkeyF0cker]

7 minutes ago, Jimmy Hoffa said:

I'm a believer in whistleblowing. 

There needs to be something in place however to keep information helpful to our adversaries from being disclosed  

Everything I touched at work was confidential to some degree. It was always front and center from on high that we release nor share anything. 

I saw two occasions where federal employees left work in handcuffs. 

Well, I don't think Assange helped any of our adversaries.

It seems to me that our biggest adversary is our own government at the moment anyway.

I don't even have a problem with Ellsberg releasing the Pentagon Papers.  When the government is spending money on war, drafting, and sending kids (who don't want to be there) to die in that war knowing that they won't win it, that's not alright with me and it shouldn't be to anyone else either.

How else would we have known that?  Were the people in government keeping that secret from the American people ever going to tell them?

[mikeman]

This deserves a wow.

 

[RaiseThese]

11 minutes ago, MonkeyF0cker said:

Is that how Snowden gets pardoned?

You're a fucking retard.

 

[Jimmy Hoffa]

7 minutes ago, MonkeyF0cker said:

Well, I don't think Assange helped any of our adversaries.

It seems to me that our biggest adversary is our own government at the moment anyway.

I don't even have a problem with Ellsberg releasing the Pentagon Papers.  When the government is spending money on war, drafting, and sending kids (who don't want to be there) to die in that war knowing that they won't win it, that's not alright with me and it shouldn't be to anyone else either.

How else would we have known that?  Were the people in government keeping that secret from the American people ever going to tell them?

It's a minefield. 

Yes, the Pentagon papers put light on what a shit show Vietnam was. But at the same time the information helped our adversaries. 

Ellsberg was portrayed as heroic, but at the same time he could easily be considered seditious and criminal...

[MonkeyF0cker]

Just now, Jimmy Hoffa said:

It's a minefield. 

Yes, the Pentagon papers put light on what a shit show Vietnam was. But at the same time the information helped our adversaries. 

Ellsberg was portrayed as heroic, but at the same time he could easily be considered seditious and criminal...

The government is our adversary too.  Especially when they're sending kids to die on a lie.

[MonkeyF0cker]

We keep getting into wars based on lies.  WMD's?

Eisenhower warned us about the military industrial complex.

And it likely killed JFK.

They're running our government more than any President is and it needs to be kept in check somehow.