Official Dem Nominee Thread (NO POLITICS - JUST BETTING TALK)

[El Chapo2017]

ALI SWENSON LOLs. Zero credibility as she is a communist from Seattle.

And, YOU Are a RW PARROT IMBECILE..

 

You DUMMFUKK...

[HinesWard86]

ALI SWENSON LOLs. Zero credibility as she is a communist from Seattle.

 

There is no record of Harris saying it, even if you don't like the AP writer. 

[El Chapo2017]

There is no record of Harris saying it, even if you don't like the AP writer. 

These RW Parrots believe anything that Breitbart shits down their throats...

 

If they saw something on Trump Twitter about "2=2+5" and "Margot Robbie is a Man" they would go all over the internet posting that shit as Gospel.

 

RW Trump Parrots Lack Brains...

[Balco]

Rep. Ilhan Omar defeats primary challenger

 

Rep. Ilhan Omar on Tuesday defeated her Democratic primary challenger, attorney Antone Melton-Meaux, who garnered attention for outraising her during the campaign, the Associated Press reported.

 

Voter fraud????

[HinesWard86]

There are significant Somali and Hmong populations in her district. It was always a long shot that she would get primaried no matter how much money centrist Dems spent.

[theguesser]

Rep. Ilhan Omar defeats primary challenger

 

Rep. Ilhan Omar on Tuesday defeated her Democratic primary challenger, attorney Antone Melton-Meaux, who garnered attention for outraising her during the campaign, the Associated Press reported.

 

Voter fraud????

Squad protects all their seats in primaries.  So much for being flukey 1 termers.  

[theguesser]

The only thing this leak got wrong was that they left out a 1 from the date.  

[tailsyoulose]

Look fat, this ain't like the movies. Sometimes the bad guy wins.

 

Can't believe he picked Harris. All that drawn out BS just to go with her.

 

Nice hit and congrats to all who had her.

[RaiseThese]

[theguesser]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/11/inside-kamalas-journey-to-joe-394049

How Kamala Harris outflanked her skeptics to become Biden’s VP pick

Her strategy — a leak-free effort that contrasted with her undisciplined presidential campaign — and a late push by her supporters paid off.

Sen. Kamala Harris offered Joe Biden a combination of executive and legislative experience that was unique among his possible vice-presidential candidates. | John Locher/AP Photo

By NATASHA KORECKI, CHRISTOPHER CADELAGO and MARC CAPUTO

 

08/12/2020 01:22 AM EDT

Updated: 

08/12/2020 01:30 AM EDT

 

Just as she emerged as an early favorite for Joe Biden's ticket this spring, Kamala Harris issued a directive to her supporters: There would be no lobbying campaign to try to influence his pick.

 

"He knows who I am," one of her supporters, California Lt. Gov. Eleni Kounalakis, recalled Harris saying. "I don't want to put pressure on him. He'll make the right call."

For months, they obeyed. But as Biden entered the final stretch of his VP selection process, the dam broke. In late July, her surrogates grew incensed by a pair of stories in POLITICO — including a report that a top member of Biden's vetting team, former Sen. Chris Dodd, complained to a donor that Harris had shown “no remorse” for her surprise attack on Biden in a Democratic debate last year.

 

 

Harris' staunchest allies in California mobilized. Kounalakis reached out to more than a dozen current and former California officials, mayors, and labor union and business leaders to demand a conference call with Biden campaign brass. No other vice presidential candidate was afforded such a meeting.

“We went rogue,” said Kounalakis. “There’s no question about it.”

On Tuesday, Harris' strategy — a low-profile, leak-free effort that contrasted sharply with her undisciplined presidential campaign — and the late push by her supporters paid off when Biden made her the nation’s first black woman to run for vice president on a major-party ticket. The announcement capped weeks of crypt-like silence from Biden advisers, whisper campaigns, opposition research and late drama.

In picking the 55-year-old senator, Biden essentially nominated the future face of the Democratic Party. The child of Jamaican and Indian immigrants, Harris is both South Asian and Black American. She is viewed by the right as too liberal, and by the far left as too centrist.

Interviews with more than two dozen people in and around the vetting process — including staffers, elected officials, Biden confidants, donors and Biden campaign aides — paint a picture of how Biden arrived at his decision.

The logic of Harris as Biden's running mate was apparent — no other contender had the combination of executive and legislative experience and diverse background. Not long into Barack Obama's presidency, she was being compared to him and pegged as a future national star. Much to her annoyance, Harris was held up as an ideal No. 2 for Biden even before she announced her own campaign.

She was even close friends with Biden's late son, Beau, after the two served as fellow state attorneys general.

The only question mark — and it was a big one — was the debate attack.

 

 

 

Several people close to the process say the revelation that Dodd had expressed such distaste over Harris’ remarks was the most disruptive period of the search. And the specter that there was hesitancy about Harris — whom her competitors also considered the frontrunner — triggered a furious round of late lobbying and speculation about which direction Biden would ultimately go.

 

 

 

Calls poured into the top members of the vetting committee from outside interests pressing for and against Harris, and making pitches on other candidates. Dodd took hundreds of calls, sometimes working morning until night on the vice presidential search — some of it handling the fallout of media coverage that his wife insisted was not true.

“Anyone who knows my Irish-Catholic husband knows — the word ‘remorse,’ I’ve never heard him say [it],” Jackie Clegg Dodd said in a brief interview on Tuesday. “It’s not part of his vocabulary.”

The four co-chairs of the search committee, which also included Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, conducted multiple Zoom interviews with each of the VP contenders. At times, committee members would split into pairs to follow up with candidates.

Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.) had a late surge of support, including from some donors in California, the home state of both Harris and California Rep. Karen Bass. The vetting team at one point flagged a potential issue with Duckworth: she was born in Bangkok. Her father, a U.S. citizen and then a Defense Department employee, was stationed in Thailand. They worried that Republicans would try to use that to stoke doubts about the legitimacy of the VP pick.

Ultimately, though, Duckworth was in it until the end, holding a one-on-one interview with Biden over the weekend. Biden personally called her hours before announcing Harris was his choice.

Bass remained in contention until the final weekend. Campaign allies called Florida Democrats to ask whether concerns about her past ties to socialists and comments about Fidel Castro were limited to Miami’s Republican-leaning electorate, two sources familiar with the discussions said. They were not, Biden team's was told.

In the course of the search, Biden and Harris spoke more than once. When the debate issue came up, according to one source familiar with the discussion, Biden told her it wasn’t a problem.

“I’m not good at keeping hard feelings,” Biden told her, echoing remarks he has repeatedly made since Harris dropped out of the presidential race in December.

 

 

 

One friend of Biden’s who recently spoke with him privately told POLITICO that the candidate confided he was struggling with the choice at times because he felt pressure from former Obama White House advisers pushing former national security adviser Susan Rice, while Dodd and others talked up Bass.

But, the friend said, Biden had more of a personal rapport with Harris, despite their run-in during the campaign. He remembered her friendship with Beau, and he respected that she ran for president.

In that way, Harris’ debate ambush was an upside for Biden.

“Joe wants someone who has been on the big stage under the bright lights who can gut someone like a fish, and Kamala more than proved she could do that,” the donor said. “Now it’s Pence’s turn and she’s gonna cut him up.”

As the vetting was underway, Biden leaned on South Carolina Rep. Jim Clyburn, a key ally, whose endorsement was pivotal to Biden’s South Carolina victory.

“Yes, my advice was sought. I talked to him several times leading up to today,” Clyburn said Tuesday. “Over the last four to five days, I think I’ve talked to him more than I’ve talked to him all year.”

Clyburn said the list of 11 contenders had narrowed significantly in recent days.

“I think Susan Rice was in strong consideration. I think Karen Bass was in strong consideration,” he said. “I think in the last two or three days I came to the conclusion that it was Harris, Bass and Rice. No one told me that, this is what I felt.”

Even as she came under attack, Harris and her husband maintained their silence throughout the process, something friends and allies viewed as key to their efforts to build trust with the Bidens.

 

 

 

But Sunday night, in the throes of Biden’s VP considerations, J.A. Moore received a phone call from Harris. Moore, a state lawmaker from South Carolina who was an early supporter of her presidential campaign and has kept in touch, noted that Harris’ call wasn’t for him, but his young daughter.

 

 

 

“The lid was supposed to be closed. She wasn’t supposed to be chit-chatting,” Moore recalled. “But here she was calling to sing my daughter 'Happy Birthday.'”

Moore and other Harris allies in South Carolina — a state she visited repeatedly before dropping out well before the primary there — have continued to advocate for her, keeping tabs through a network unofficially led by Clyburn.

“He was huge,” Moore said of Clyburn’s influence. “All the signs were there if you looked. It had to be someone that was viable. She was the only one who was tested nationally. He made it clear that she was the right person.”

The announcement highlighted the campaign’s ability to lock down and control messaging. Biden’s choice was widely suspected, but it was kept under wraps until the campaign announced it.

“He had vivid memories of going through this himself. He didn’t want leaks. He didn't want speculation. He wanted to keep it as discreet as possible to protect the candidates,” a senior campaign adviser told POLITICO. “He felt strongly from the beginning that the interests of the potential nominee were protected.”

Harris won the veepstakes despite lingering bitterness among some Biden allies over the debate clash. But her supporters have long argued that what she demonstrated would only be an asset to the ticket.

“If you’re running for president, run to win,” said a longtime Harris adviser, who praised Biden and his team for being able to put the incident behind them. “In the end, it wasn’t held against her. And we have to recognize that.”

 

 

 

 

[tailsyoulose]

Brutal to know bass and Duckworth were in it right til the end.

 

Got blowed the fuck out.

[Boatboatboat]

Boat, the idea that Biden is picking his VP candidate with an eye towards winning the popular vote by a larger margin, is ridiculous.

Ok

[RaiseThese]

40sec summation of Kamala

 

[Teddy kgb]

What were the best odds on Kamala?

[El Chapo2017]

Brutal to know bass and Duckworth were in it right til the end.

Got blowed the fuck out.

Lmao!

 

Harris was ALWAYS A Mortal Lock...

 

I started pounding Harris when the First Lines appeared after the 2018 Midterms in November 2018...

 

EZ Money...

 

Same with Biden...

 

I have been pounding Biden (to win the 2020 General Election) even !onger...

 

As Always (When it comes to 2020 Politics) Chapo is 100% RIGHT about Biden.

 

Pound Biden (for the Max)...

 

Before he gets to -5000 and drops off the board...

 

Biden to Beat Trump is the Biggest LOCK in the History of gambling...

 

Don't say that I didn't warn you...

[tailsyoulose]

She was +115 or so about four days ago. But was always around a pick em.

 

Even as the favorite, those odds were some of the worst I've ever seen.

 

After the selection, it's obvious that several people were in strong contention until the very end. Seems like Kam needed both duck and bass to be DQ'd by vetting decisions, otherwise one of them could have easily got it instead.

 

She should not have been shorter than +200 at best. I put her even lower than that, but in any case, fading stuff like that will make you rich in the long run.

[HinesWard86]

 

Bass remained in contention until the final weekend. Campaign allies called Florida Democrats to ask whether concerns about her past ties to socialists and comments about Fidel Castro were limited to Miami’s Republican-leaning electorate, two sources familiar with the discussions said. They were not, Biden team's was told.

 

 

Lol at that paragraph.

 

Pro-Castro sympathies are a non-starter nationally and will be for at least another decade. You can't win the most important swing state (Florida) with a candidate that made multiple trips to Castro's Cuba and praised both Castro and Oneil Cannon upon their deaths within the last four years. Florida Republicans do a good enough job painting all Democrats as socialists in order to keep Cubans voting R.

[theguesser]

Lol at that paragraph.

 

Pro-Castro sympathies are a non-starter nationally and will be for at least another decade. You can't win the most important swing state (Florida) with a candidate that made multiple trips to Castro's Cuba and praised both Castro and Oneil Cannon upon their deaths within the last four years. Florida Republicans do a good enough job painting all Democrats as socialists in order to keep Cubans voting R.

I agree with you.   I think it was a puff piece for Karen's political future, perhaps Sen of Cal to replace Kamala?  I think as soon as Castro and Scientology came out she was toast.   I think it was always Kamala and then Rice, and both would have had to have major red flags to move elsewhere.    Rice would have been a poor choice for many reasons, but she did have the best personal relationship with Biden, and that's why she was always a factor, and a finalist.   Kamala was the logical choice from jumpstreet.   Only a severe red flag or an inability to have any personal chemistry whatsoever with Biden was gonna stop it from being Kamala.   It was never gonna be a non minority, again unless every Woman of Color had red flags. 

[theguesser]

What were the best odds on Kamala?

She was the favorite from the beginning, except for a few hours in the last couple of days of crazy rumors.  I got her at +150 at the end of May.   

[El Chapo2017]

She was the favorite from the beginning, except for a few hours in the last couple of days of crazy rumors. I got her at +150 at the end of May.

 

Exactly.

 

Just Like Biden is Da Lock of ARH...

 

Da LOCK of All Recorded History...

 

When Bernie was Burying Biden, Before SC, I Pounded Biden to Win the General (at Huge Odds).

 

EZ Munny...

[theguesser]

Exactly.

 

Just Like Biden is Da Lock of ARH...

 

Da LOCK of All Recorded History...

 

When Bernie was Burying Biden, Before SC, I Pounded Biden to Win the General (at Huge Odds).

 

EZ Munny...

I got Biden at 11-1 for the D Nom a couple of days before the SC primary.  It was a scalp, but that was the best price I ever saw on Biden to be the nominee.   

[HinesWard86]

She was the favorite from the beginning, except for a few hours in the last couple of days of crazy rumors. I got her at +150 at the end of May.

There was one place that initially made Abrams the favorite back in mid March. That didnt make sense to me as Abrams lost the progressives when she accepted Bloomberg's money and then defended it.

 

Harris was +150 and Klobuchar was +160 at BOL back on March 20

[theguesser]

There was one place that initially made Abrams the favorite back in mid March. That didnt make sense to me as Abrams lost the progressives when she accepted Bloomberg's money and then defended it.

 

Harris was +150 and Klobuchar was +160 at BOL back on March 20

Good call.  When Amy dropped out and said it should be a Woman of Color, that pretty much tied Biden into choosing a woman of color. 

[ERBtheGREAT]

She was the favorite from the beginning, except for a few hours in the last couple of days of crazy rumors. I got her at +150 at the end of May.

Plus 230 at Bovada like 2 months ago

[theguesser]

Another How Kamala was picked story.   Some similarities, some differences from prior account:

 

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/08/12/how-biden-chose-harris-inside-his-search-for-a-running-mate/24588979/

 

 

How Biden chose Harris: Inside his search for a running mate

The Associated Press

JULIE PACE, DAVID EGGERT AND KATHLEEN RONAYNE

Aug 12th 2020 8:32AM

WASHINGTON (AP) — Gretchen Whitmer wanted out.

 

The Michigan governor had caught the interest of Joe Biden and his vice presidential vetting committee, who were drawn to her prominence in a crucial battleground state and her aggressive response to the coronavirus outbreak there. But by late spring, the nation was in the midst of a reckoning over race and inequality following the death of George Floyd, a Black man who died after a white police officer pressed his knee into his neck for several minutes.

 

Whitmer sent word to Biden’s team that while she was flattered, she no longer wanted to be considered for the running mate slot, according to a high-ranking Democrat familiar with the process. She recommended Biden pick a Black woman.

 

But Biden still wanted Whitmer in the mix, and he personally called her in mid-June to ask if she would continue on to the second, more intensive round of vetting, according to the official. Whitmer agreed.

 

But forces in the country, and within the Democratic Party, were indeed pushing Biden toward a history-making pick. As protests over the death of Floyd and other Black Americans filled the streets across the country, an array of Democrats urged Biden to put a Black woman on the ticket — a nod to this moment in the nation’s history, to the critical role Black voters played in Biden’s ascent to the Democratic nomination, and to their vital importance in his general election campaign against President Donald Trump.

 

On Tuesday, Biden tapped California Sen. Kamala Harris to be his running mate, making her the first Black woman to serve on a major party presidential ticket. This account of how he made that decision, the most important of his political career, is based on interviews with 10 people with direct knowledge of the vetting and selection process. Most spoke on condition of anonymity to disclose private conversations and deliberations.

___

 

Biden, well aware of the potential pitfalls of being a 77-year-old white male standard-bearer of a party increasingly comprised of women, people of color and young voters, made clear even before he had clinched the Democratic nomination that his running mate would be a woman.

 

His initial list of possible contenders was sprawling: roughly 20 governors, senators, congresswomen, mayors and other Democratic stalwarts. They were young and old; Black, Hispanic, white, Asian; straight and gay. Some, including Harris, had competed against Biden for the Democratic nomination.

 

From the start, some Biden advisers saw Harris as a logical choice. She was among the party’s most popular figures, a deft debater and a fundraising juggernaut. She had been thoroughly vetted during her own campaign and Biden’s team expected there would be few surprises if she was the pick.

 

Indeed, Harris’ potential downsides were well-known to Biden advisers. Her record as a prosecutor in California was already viewed skeptically by some younger Democrats during the primary and would face even more scrutiny against the backdrop of a national debate over inequality in the criminal justice system.

 

There were also nagging questions about Harris’ most high-profile moment of the primary campaign — a harsh and deeply personal broadside against Biden over his position on school busing in the 1970s. Though Biden would later brush the moment aside as campaign tactics, the attack was said to have stunned the former vice president, who had considered his relationship with Harris strong. It also raised concern among a small cadre of Biden advisers that Harris would be eyeing the Oval Office herself from the start, a particular worry given that Biden has not firmly committed to serving two terms if elected in November.

 

And so, as spring turned to summer, a string of other Black women would take a turn in the spotlight as Biden weighed his options. Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms and Florida Rep. Val Demings impressed Biden’s team with their leadership during the police brutality protests.

 

Some House Democrats — including South Carolina Rep. James Clyburn, a close Biden confidant — advocated for Rep. Karen Bass, a Californian who chairs the Congressional Black Caucus. Biden also took a strong interest in Susan Rice, with whom he worked closely when she served in the White House as President Barack Obama’s national security adviser.

 

The leading contenders, who also included Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren and Illinois Sen. Tammy Duckworth, submitted reams of financial records, texts of speeches and other personal information. Biden’s selection team canvassed a vast array of Democrats to ask for their views on the candidates’ temperament and families, then grilled the candidates on much of the same.

 

Biden, too, regularly discussed his potential pick with his sprawling network of friends and advisers. He used Obama in particular as a sounding board, though confidants to both men say the former president was careful not to tip his hand in those conversations as to whom he preferred.

 

But in private, Obama suggested to others that he believed Harris was the favorite.

 

 

In one of Harris’ conversations with the vetting committee, Chris Dodd — a longtime Biden friend who served alongside him in the Senate — asked if she had remorse for her debate stage attack on his busing record.

 

Harris, as she had previously done so publicly, brushed it aside as simply politics. Dodd, a member of the running mate selection committee, was put off and let that be known. The incident was first reported by Politico and confirmed to The Associated Press by a person with direct knowledge.

 

The public disclosure of Dodd’s comments angered some of the highest-ranking women on Biden’s campaign team. Some of Harris’ allies also mobilized to defend her, including California Lt. Gov. Eleni Kounalakis, who organized a call with Biden’s vetting team about two weeks ago to assuage any doubts about whether the senator was the right choice for the ticket.

 

On the 45-minute call, Kounalakis and other statewide officials, labor and business leaders took turns sharing their personal histories with Harris and their impressions of her as a leader.

 

“Speaking out as strongly as we did, collectively, helped them understand how supported she is and why,” Kounalakis said on Tuesday.

 

The call ended with Biden’s vetting team telling the Harris supporters that they had all recommended her as one of the top candidates for the job.

 

 

The pandemic had largely grounded Biden in his home state of Delaware throughout the summer, and also upended some of the ways he had expected to build a rapport with the running-mate contenders. There were no joint rallies or carefully orchestrated, yet casual-looking, outings to local restaurants in battleground states. Biden was also accepting few in-person visitors at his home.

 

But he did want to speak one-on-one with the women who had made it through the vetting process and interviews with his selection committee. He would hold conversations with 11 women in the final nine days before he made his pick — a mixture of in-person meetings and video teleconferences.

 

Whitmer was among those who flew to Delaware for an in-person audience. She boarded a private plane in Lansing, Michigan, on Aug. 2, spending just a few hours on the ground before returning to Michigan.

 

Rice, who had perhaps the closest personal relationship with Biden of all the contenders, spoke twice with Biden in recent days. Duckworth also had a formal interview over the weekend, as did Georgia Democrat Stacey Abrams, who was initially viewed as a leading contender for the job.

 

On Tuesday, in the hours before his campaign announced Harris as the pick, Biden would call each of those women to inform them that they had not been selected. Warren, whose relationship with Biden has deepened in recent months through regular policy discussions, was also among those to receive a personal call from the former vice president.

 

In some of the conversations, Biden left open an opportunity. Please consider joining me in another role in the administration, he said.

 

Eggert reported from Lansing, Mich., and Ronayne from Sacramento, Calif. Associated Press writers Bill Barrow in Atlanta, Will Weissert in Wilmington, Del., and Laurie Kellman in Washington contributed to this report.